Chris 0:06

This episode marked our podcast's first birthday.

SPEAKER_03 0:09

When we started, we thought this podcast would be all about our deafenies. And the quote for one of our long episodes would expose them.

Chris 0:16

But ever since what we found is that our generations have far more in common than we thought when it comes to dealing with bottom life.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Yes, Dad, but what that quiz demonstrates is that neither of us have a clue about the other cultural reference places.

Chris 0:29

That is true. This anniversary episode has some special guests, old and new, and it's even more fun than the first quiz.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

And no one was expecting what would happen in the final quest.

Chris 0:41

Welcome to the Gen XD Exchange. I'm Chris Perkins, Gen X parent, now 50 something empty nest up.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

And I'm Lily Perkins, Gen Z career explorer. We swap insights on career choices, work, and life in general.

Chris 0:56

So whether you're a Gen X parent trying to figure out midlife challenges.

SPEAKER_03 1:00

Or a Gen Z young professional or student figuring out adulthood, you're in the right place.

Chris 1:05

So welcome to this uh special edition of the Gen XZ Exchange. Uh, this is going out on what will be our first anniversary of the podcast. And we have some special guests with us for a rematch of the Gen XZ quiz that was one of our launch episodes. So on my team for Gen X, I have someone who has featured regularly in the podcast, uh, longtime listener, first time caller, known to Lily as Mum. And that is Linda. Welcome along.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Thank you. I'm feeling honored to be in the midst of all of this greatness.

Chris 1:44

Oh, our other special guest is another loyal listener, and also the guest of what was our most popular episode from our first year on CVs. If anyone needs any help with crafting a CV, go back and have a listen to that episode. It is a professional CV writer and colleague of mine, Carl Scott. Carl, welcome back. Thanks so much for having me back. It's such a pleasure. Thanks for coming. And Lily, would you like to introduce your team?

SPEAKER_03 2:15

Yes, of course. So starting off again with someone that we had on before for the last time that we did this, is of course my brother, Charlie Perkins. I don't have much to say about him. He's hopefully gonna no, he's hopefully gonna contribute some good stuff, but he also didn't really see the questions until two minutes ago. So fingers crossed, we're hoping.

SPEAKER_05 2:39

Very much.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

Thanks for joining us, Charlie, and sorry for being mean to you. You'll do very well, I'm sure. And then I also have my lovely friend Louise joining us today. Louise is also a long time listener of the podcast and has been one of our longest standing supporters. So I'm very excited to have her on today. Thanks for having me on. I'm so excited.

Chris 3:00

Welcome everyone. Uh Charlie, I hope you've been brushing up on your historical events from the Gen X era.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Yeah, devils.

Chris 3:10

So, same format as last time, although obviously we've come up with different questions. Each team has got 10 questions across four different categories. There are two points for a correct answer, one point for a partially correct answer, and we'll kind of figure that out as we go. If everyone's ready to start, we'll begin.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

Yeah, let's get into it. I'm excited.

Chris 3:33

Given that uh we're the elders, Lily, shall Gen X kick off?

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Yes, why not? Age before beauty.

Chris 3:39

Thank you. Our first category is TV, music, and movies. This is our music question. Can you name two artists who performed at the London Live Aid concert in 1985?

SPEAKER_03 3:53

Oh. 1985. Okay. Can they maybe Live Aid London? Who do you think Louise? Queen, no. Yes. Queen and then we'll just say 1985. I wasn't actually there, so it's quite um let's think, guys. Charlie, think of who's Bob Geldof.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Who did he organizer? Was he in a band?

SPEAKER_03 4:21

Yeah. Was he in a band? Wait, I don't know. Was it not? Was Live Aid not like U2 or something? Were they around in the 80s?

unknown 4:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

Yeah, okay. We're gonna Charlie, do you have anything to say?

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Um nothing to ask.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

Okay, great. Um, I think we're just gonna lock those two in for lack of other ones.

Chris 4:40

So Queen and U2.

unknown 4:42

Yeah.

Chris 4:44

They both performed at London. Episode two points to Teen Jersey. Well done, ma'am. And you would have got a point for you would have got a point for Bob Geldof as well. As you said, Louise, he was the organizer, and his band, the Boomtown Rats, were there. Big long list of uh 80s bands. So yeah, you are up and running with two points. Well done.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Okay, we're off to a good start. Excellent. I think news had it down on the original one. You were saying it's music, film, all that stuff. We just had pop culture first, so I was just kind of bigging over into the internet character for our first question. Question one is which baby hippopotamus became a global internet sensation in 2024?

Chris 5:28

Lyming. I'm I'm not familiar with any hippopotamus internet sensations. I'm looking at my teammates hoping they might be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

I think I'll go further. I'm not sure I could name a hippopotamus.

Chris 5:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

See, I thought this was gonna be quite an easy one to start you guys off.

Chris 5:49

Any ideas?

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Uh none whatsoever.

Chris 5:53

Okay. Should we just guess at something? What would you call a baby hippopotamus? Hippie. Hippie the hippocotamus.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

Are you locking that in, guys?

Chris 6:03

That's as good as we'll get.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Okay, so I think you might recognise the name, but the answer was Moodeng. Did no one ever see him, the little baby hippie? Oh, sorry, guys. He's lovely. He was he was something that we all saw quite a lot of me and Louise talked about mooding. Or maybe Mooding was a she, but we talked. Talked about Mooding in great lengths, and it was bigger in our heads than it was for the rest of the time. Sorry. Hopefully, next time.

Chris 6:34

Okay, well let's move on to question two, another one from the 80s, the the core of the Gen X era. What program drew the biggest UK TV audience of the 1980s? Just need the name of the program.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Not in the UK. Not in the UK and the world. UK.

Chris 6:55

No, the UK UK TV across the whole of the 80s. Which program had the biggest ever viewing figures?

SPEAKER_04 7:03

I don't even know a TV show.

Chris 7:05

Let's see neither.

SPEAKER_03 7:07

So UK program from the thing is coronation. And the 80s. I don't even know they probably have Telly Black neither's play, black and white.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

Charlie, I think you don't have anything to say.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

Let's say all the exact same thoughts, so I don't want to repeat them.

SPEAKER_04 7:28

Okay. What should we lock in then, guys? I don't know. Shall we just say like amazingly, you would be right.

SPEAKER_03 7:47

That's good. So it was Thank you, Charlie, for that.

Chris 7:57

Den and Ange, who were two of the main characters, had a big bust up. They actually broadcast two episodes on Christmas Day of Den giving Ange uh divorce papers because she had faked a terminal illness. Oh, it was watched by an estimated 30.1 million people. That's more than half the population. We're all sitting in the East Enders Christmas Day 1986.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

It kind of brought Christmas Day to a standstill. I mean, it was appointment television. It was absolutely mahoosu. Wow. I wonder how many people are getting their roesties because they were busy watching that's great. Okay, well, I'm glad that was a lucky guess.

Chris 8:40

Right. Well, you're well out in front now by a total fluke. Okay, what you got for us?

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Who would like, Charlie? Do you want to do this one?

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Yeah, I can do. Wet artists fans are called barbs.

Chris 8:51

Barbs?

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Yes. Musical artists. Hmm.

Chris 8:56

I'm drawing another blank and kind of think what that might be an abbreviation for.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

I'll give you a little hint that it's not really to do with the artist's name, unfortunately.

Chris 9:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

Even harder.

Chris 9:12

Yeah, that doesn't really help. Linda, any thoughts?

SPEAKER_03 9:16

I mean, nothing obvious. I'm kind of casting around for the kind of stuff that you guys listen to and I'm kind of like. Charlie, how about you drop like a lyric or something that might give them a hand?

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Yeah, I was gonna say one specific word. Okay. Which is not the name of like the artist or anything, but it's one song that you might know, which is Starships.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

No, that gets me no closer. It just puts me in the fretful situation of uh being old enough to think, what an artist do young people like?

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Is it quite a quite a dancy song, Star Cliff? Yeah, yeah. It's like copy. You would know it from circuit class. We used to hear it at circuits. So can you think about who made that song on as that starships were meant to fly blah blah and then oh man, um is it dual leaf path? No, a bit older than that, a bit older than that. You'll kick yourself.

Chris 10:24

Okay, I think we've got another pass unless you have a flash of inspiration and uh um oh no, that's so annoying.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

It is gonna be annoying when you we reveal the answer and then when we get to the end and we're we've we've sweated range of circuits. I know we haven't on many occasions. Your time is up. Charlie, please reveal the answer.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

The answer is Nicki Minaj.

SPEAKER_03 10:54

Who actually isn't really someone that y that um young people like that much anymore because she's made some quite controversial political decisions. Anyways, sorry. Again, I thought that one maybe would be something.

Chris 11:07

Uh nearly. Oh, why barbs though?

SPEAKER_03 11:10

Charlie, is it bar like she describes herself as a Barbie?

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Yeah, I think it's meant to be like Barbie's like kind of link.

Chris 11:16

Okay, well, right, we've got some catching up to do.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

Can I just see? I think ours are a bit more mainstream than yours are. Well, we're gonna we're gonna give you some more mainstream ones later, don't worry. That's why we have options.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Thank you. Um, so the next question is what was the biggest grossing film of the 80s in the UK? I do have options, but do you want to take a go off the bat?

Chris 11:40

Nah, let's just give it to them cold. Multiple choices, too easy. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

Right. So biggest grossing film throughout all of the 80s in the UK. In the UK. I can't think of a single film.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

Surely that makes my brain go blind.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Surely, like Star Wars or something. Yeah. But I don't know which one.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah, which one, no.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

My order. Charlie, surely your order, it wouldn't it would have been one of the prequels, no?

SPEAKER_01 12:15

If it was gonna be one of the things came out after the original three, no.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

Yeah, the original ones came out in the 70s. Did they not? I don't know. I don't know anything. Right, someone pick one of Charlie Picker. I can't think of many other films it came in.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

I can't think of the names of them. I actually don't know if I know them.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Great. You're absolutely useless.

Chris 12:38

I might have to disown you for that, Charlie.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Yeah. I know which ones are good if I see them. I'm like tempted to say no hope. But I can't I'm assuming I know that's in the main three by the way.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

No, would that not have been earlier? Is it would it what about Emperor Strikes Back? Where's that? Is that what it's called? I think it's Empire now. I'm Emperor. Empire.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

I think it's the Empire Strikes Back.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_01 13:03

I can't remember where it's placed.

SPEAKER_03 13:06

Charlie, just pick one. I'm sick, I'm sick of you.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

No, you get one because I don't want to be blamed.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

Okay, The Emperor. The Empire Strikes Back.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Yeah, it's bang on the Empire Strikes. Oh no, wait, wait, I've got it wrong. I've read it, I've read it wrong. I've read I'm so sorry, everyone's land. I've read the card around. Uh I have uh the Emperor Strikes Back in number two. Number one was E.T. the extra terrestrial.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

Oh, I forgot the E.T.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Yep, that's the one, Mom. Oh, that's so annoying. Oh well, that gives you guys a chance to catch up. Okay, I'm gonna do our last question for the pop culture ending. I'm gonna hopefully this is one that mum, I kind of expect you to know this one. No pressure.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

I think mum's gonna know it.

SPEAKER_03 14:02

So, Trelly, I'm switching to the other one. So I'm gonna say, who is the author of the best-selling young adult fiction series, The Hunger Games?

SPEAKER_02 14:15

Yeah, I reckon I can take that one. Fairly sure we're talking about Suzanne Collins.

SPEAKER_03 14:22

Yay! Well done, Carl. Bringing the team back up. You're like the opposite of Charlie.

Chris 14:30

So after after round one, Gen Z are on four, Gen X on two. Well done. Close the gap. Okay, so we are moving on to historical events. I don't know what category you've got.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

Yes, yes, you have historical events.

Chris 14:45

Okay, so question four, Linda.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Okay, so the question is how many years was Margaret Thatcher Prime Minister for? You get two points for getting it exact, and you get a point a year either side.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Dad said like the dates to me literally the other day.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Oh, Charlie.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

She was in there for a while. Um do we have to give years or just numbers? Just a number.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

How many years?

SPEAKER_03 15:19

Charlie, you know it. Come on, Charlie. I should also know this to be honest. That's a bit shameful.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

You should know this more than me. That's your degree.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

I know. Shameful. Um for a while. Let's thanks. No. Um how many years is this a term like for? So maybe say like six, seven.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Low key like sixteen. Can you can you do that? Can you say whatever you want? Just no, maybe like twelve.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

Not the slightest hope. I feel like that's a bit oh this one's got actually stamped. Right. Charlie, I'll just pass it over to you because that's I hate when you do that. Oh, you're not contributed much else.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

That it's like, well, should we go for a not even number?

SPEAKER_03 16:13

Yeah. Yeah. Not even sounds about right.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Do you disagree if I say I'm between like nine or eleven?

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Should we say it? Yeah, one of them. Flop a quote in in your head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Okay, let's go for a nine.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

The answer is 11 years. Oh no. That's so annoying. Oh. Sorry, well done, Charlie, because you did better than me and Louise. So close. That's so annoying.

Chris 16:47

I thought you were gonna get another one there just by a pure fluke. Thanks for picking nine, Charlie. You're welcome. I'll still keep us in with a shot. Yeah. Okay. Give us a Gen Z historical event.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

Okay. Well, whose turn is that? Is it your yes? Okay. So for our historic event, it wasn't that historic, it was quite recent. But it was it went down in history, guys. We'll talk about it in years years to come. Which bands Kiss Cam accidentally exposed a workplace affair that became one of 2025's most viral stories?

unknown 17:22

Yay!

SPEAKER_03 17:22

We know this one. So this was cold plane. It was well done. But don't be fooled. That's the cam before the storm before you're not gonna get. Yes. Good one. Okay, good job. Cool.

Chris 17:38

Okay, so we're tied at four points each. That takes us to question five. Do you want to do number five, Carl?

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Sure, yes. Uh, name the artist and song that the UK won the 1981 Eurovision Song Conference.

SPEAKER_04 17:54

A weak point for us.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Yeah, I don't think I've I can't remember the last time I watched Eurovision.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

1981. Wait, UK. Yeah, we won. So no album.

Chris 18:05

That was surprising. So this was a big deal at the time.

SPEAKER_03 18:09

Yeah, the only the only Eurovision when is I know where Alba and here. BucksFizz were for the UK, but I don't know that they won. Well, if we've not put yeah, just chuck that in there. Why not? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:20

Okay, you know the name of the song?

SPEAKER_04 18:25

Making your mind up?

SPEAKER_02 18:26

It was BucksFizz Making Your Mind Up.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

Thanks, go Louise. That's so my mummy told me to go.

Chris 18:37

Well done.

SPEAKER_03 18:38

Shout out Karen. Oh, phew. I was getting a bit nervous there. Yeah. Okay. Is it our turn again? Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Right, really. This is one number two for you. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Which collectible toy often clapped onto handbags became almost impossible to buy after going viral.

Chris 18:58

Hmm. Roughly when was this?

SPEAKER_03 19:01

I know it. Okay.

Chris 19:03

Very recent. Kind of still to this day.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

Yeah, it's all a boom-boom boom. Well done.

Chris 19:09

What on earth are they?

SPEAKER_03 19:15

I think back in the day we'd have thought they were a bit like those kind of trolls or gulp. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of they went viral. I don't really know how they went viral, but everyone all of a sudden became a bit obsessed with them, and then people were selling them for crazy prices and they're selling out everywhere. Yeah. The 24 car at gold laboo. And then all these fakes were going out. It was a bit of a craze, but it seems to have died down a bit now, thankfully.

Chris 19:41

Okay. Well, with that, that takes Gen X into the lead by one point. Here's your chance to pull it back. What was the name? Oh, we're we're onto our youth culture question. Yeah, youth culture measures.

SPEAKER_05 19:54

Okay.

Chris 19:55

What was the name of the nightclub that was the unofficial headquarters of the baggy Madchester scene in the late 80s and early 90s?

SPEAKER_03 20:04

Wait, did you say baggy Manchester? Baggy Madchester.

Chris 20:08

Mad so it was a Manchester scene. So Madchester was stone roses, happy money's all of that kind of stuff. And there was a club in Manchester that was kind of the centre of the universe for all of that.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

So yours have been a bit cheeky because earlier on you said all these questions are a bit niche, and then you're dropping these ones. You've lured us into a trap. Let's think. Clubs in Manchester. Uh Polo. Um like Indie Club. Uh I actually don't have a call. In Manchester. I'm trying to. I feel like you might say it and we might be annoyed because we've heard about it, but if I had to pull it out of my own brain, I don't think I've got anything, Charlie. Anything?

SPEAKER_04 20:55

No.

Chris 20:56

Um you you probably have heard us talk about this. It was the one and only hacienda.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Oh, that's so annoying because there's actually um a bar in Glasgow that's got like lights that came from there. A customer was telling me about it not too long ago. That's really annoying.

Chris 21:15

There we go. Owned by Factory Records.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

Now a proud block of flash. Yeah, yeah.

Chris 21:22

It got closed down, paid for from the royalties from Blue Monday, the new royal song. That's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Oh that's annoying.

Chris 21:31

Let's see how we'll do with Gen Z youth culture.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

Okay. So what does it mean if someone describes something as their Roman Empire?

Chris 21:45

You think it's something that has fallen apart or something big and grand?

SPEAKER_02 21:52

I think I think I might know. But I might just be like making up a story and embarrassing myself. So I Think if it's your Roman Empire, it's the thing that you think about a lot or obsess over. Because I'm sure there was a thing about how often men think about the Roman Empire, and so then it became like a shorthand for the thing that you're like obsessed with.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

Spot on, nail on the head. It did that's exactly how it started. That was a girl finding out that her boyfriend thought about the Roman Empire all the time, and she came online and was like, Does anyone else's boyfriend think about the Roman Empire on all the time? And it seemed to be a thing that lots of men were thinking about. So if something is your Roman Empire, like you could say that scene in that TV show is my Roman Empire, think about it all the time, or like the cake that I had at this cafe is my Roman Empire. Things like that. So, yep, spot on. We need to pull it back, guys. Yeah, we do.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

I am learning a lot. Well done, Carl. And can I just take a moment to take a moment to commend your poker faces? Because as I was saying that, I was growing gradually more embarrassed and convinced I was completely wrong.

SPEAKER_03 23:03

That would have been good, but unfortunately you're a dead on. So which of these would not have been an 80s kids Christmas list item? So you've got the choice between a VMX bike, a Rubik's Cube, a cabbage patch doll, or a Tamagotchi? I think all of them would be no did you say for an 80s wish list? Yeah. Tamagotchi definitely didn't come around until like the 90s or 2000s. I think cabbage patched all were definitely around ages ago. BMX bike has just a bike in it. So thank god you're here. Um and then what was the other one you said? It was that Rubik's Cube. Rubik's definitely. And I think we should lock in Tamagotchi because I'm not even sure you guys had batteries grow up. We're all just plugged into the electrical grids, the main and then it went off when there were minor strikes and things, Lily, because it was coal powered. Exactly. So no way you had a coal-powered Tamagotchi. Right in your cheek, you could actually get that right, and it was a Tamagotchi. Yeah, 1997 round. Well one of those. Okay, good.

Chris 24:20

So it's still everything to play for at the end of round three, Gen Z on seven. Is that an end? We don't have another. We've still got another round to do.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

He's trying to no, we've still got another question in this round. Oh, have you? Sorry. Okay.

Chris 24:36

Another another opportunity for the first time. He's so desperate to wear this.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Okay. Again, I think maybe you might get this one. What does standing on business mean? Or maybe not.

Chris 24:55

Can give us a clue about the context?

SPEAKER_03 24:59

I'd say it like I'm standing on business. Yeah. Yeah, I'm there's not really many ways you can say it, I don't think, without giving it away. Let me try and think. I think you'd say it about yourself. Or you could say like one thing about her is she'll stand on business.

Chris 25:17

That give us any clues, team?

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Not majorly, I'm afraid. So all we've done is read it out loud. Hoping that the tone would convey something.

Chris 25:27

Standing on business.

SPEAKER_03 25:30

Uh is it maybe based on based on the context of that, is it maybe won't take any nonsense? You know, if you stand on business, you're kind of not kind of gonna put up with any crap from anyone.

Chris 25:43

Yeah, looking at me shutting things down.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

Yeah, I don't know. What do you think, Carl?

SPEAKER_02 25:48

I'm very happy to go with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

I think that gets uh a half point because that is kind of an element of it. It's sometimes used to describe like sticking up for yourself, having a backbone, but I think more generally you would say it's following through with something that you've said. So if you've said like if he does that one more time, I'm breaking up with him, and you do break up with him instead of being like, Yes, fine, you're someone who stands on business. So it's more of like a taking responsibility thing than a taking no shit thing, but I think half point is deserved because you could say it sometimes. So well done, mum.

unknown 26:23

Thank you.

Chris 26:24

Well done. One point, thank you very much. That was very gracious and very educational.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Yes, there you go. Everyone can stand on business throughout the quiz.

unknown 26:34

Yeah.

Chris 26:35

So that should bring us to the end of round three. So you've got three questions left, yeah? Yes. So that puts Gen X on nine points and Gen Z on seven.

SPEAKER_04 26:46

No, Louisa's all your fault. I know.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

No, Louise has kind of been the MVP.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

Charlie is all your MVP.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

I'll take the blame.

SPEAKER_04 26:55

Men of the moment.

Chris 26:56

There's still six points up for grabs, so it could go either way. Okay. We've got some just names.

SPEAKER_04 27:03

Yeah.

Chris 27:04

Uh Carl, do you want to do number eight? Yeah, I'll read the next one. This is life and tech.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

Um, so can you name two of the five original space shuttles? And please don't ask any clarifying questions because I'm not entirely sure about space shuttles.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Okay, two of the five. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

I didn't even know there was five.

SPEAKER_04 27:29

Space shuttle. Um what's Apollo? Yeah. No, it's so many.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

I know, it's seemed like a shuttle and a spaceship and all a rocket. What is it?

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Um what is the Apollo? Apollo 13.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Is that not is that not like a bad one? That's a big rocket. Okay, let's think.

Chris 27:52

And then also Would would you like a clue? Yes. So one of these were the ones that would sort of went up and came back down. One of them will always be known for the something disaster.

SPEAKER_04 28:05

The space disaster or something. Um, let's think.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

Or he's on the malt out for after all, basically, all the shuttles are.

SPEAKER_04 28:17

Right.

Chris 28:18

You must have done this in science.

SPEAKER_04 28:20

I think as the Apollo Okay, what happened in Apollo 13 and Apollo 11?

SPEAKER_03 28:25

They're different. Uh I think to be fair, Chris, because they've been quite fair with us, we should probably say that the Apollo space trap were earlier, so they're not the ones you're looking for.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Oh, so we're just competing.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Okay, well, let's really rack our the disaster. One was like Challenger. No.

unknown 28:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Is that not like the Titanic thing? No, it's not. No, right. Let's just say that because we can't think. I don't know any. It's probably called right. There's something disaster, guys. Like adventurer, adventurer.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yeah, it's definitely called the adventurer.

SPEAKER_03 29:03

The explorer.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Always got stupid names.

SPEAKER_03 29:07

What's the disaster one though? That's gonna annoy me. Yeah, it can't be like the explorer disaster. That's not it. Because in uh the right, what 30 more seconds, quick. Um it's just not enough. All that's going around in my brain is the space disaster. That's just so unhelpful. Um okay, should we say the challenger and the I don't think it is the challenger disaster? Sounds a bit silly. Yeah, but um I think I'm thinking of the movie. Yeah. Um, okay, let's just say the challenger and the rocket. Charlie, what do you think?

SPEAKER_01 29:45

And the explorer or like I feel like they're they always have stupid names like the adventurer or like explorer or something. One of the things that you can do.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Let's just say let's just lock in the challenger and the explorer, but Dev or Wrongs.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

Dev or not right. I think one of my teammates should give the answers because I'm way out of my depth here. I was I was with you on most of this discussion.

Chris 30:05

That was good, that was helpful.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Reassuring.

Chris 30:07

So you get a point for Challenger. Well done, Louise. It it wasn't Adventurer, but there was one called Discovery. Oh and another one called Endeavour. And then the first one was called Columbia, and the other one was called Atlantis.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

But we should have just opened up the Saurus and looked through the name, like words similar to but well done on pulling that one out of the brain, Louise.

Chris 30:37

The challenger disaster.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

Yeah, sorry to all involved.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

We apologise.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

I feel actually like we struggle put with a lot of our questions, they're just like, what does this mean? What does this mean? But those are the ones that we sting you on. So unfortunately, it is quite what does this mean heavy. Um, whose turn is it? I just did one. Is it Louise's turn? I think so. Yeah. Or Charlie's? Let's do Louise. Okay. What does it mean to get ratioed on social media?

SPEAKER_05 31:13

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

It's always a good sign when dad goes, mm-hmm.

Chris 31:20

It's gotta be I try and work them out logically. It's gotta be something to do with uh likes or shares or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 31:29

And the right sounds good.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Carl, Linda. I like the way you're thinking. Uh I couldn't even guess whether it was a good or a bad thing.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

I don't do social media. She's just that's a copy of it.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

That's not true, Mom. You send me Instagram reels.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Busted.

Chris 31:51

So, how about if we say something to do with your ratio of followers to likes? Like if something goes viral, so you've got like thousands of likes when you might only have a couple of hundred followers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

You're kind of close, but I don't know if we can give you the half point because I think that is just a given with the ratios. But I don't know, we can leave it up to the jury. But you're on the right track because it's basically you would say like someone's been ratioed. If you if a post receives like significantly more comments or replies, if it's like a tweet or whatever, than it does likes or reposts. So basically, more negative engagement than it has positive engagement, then you've been ratioed. That usually indicates there's disagreement, backlash.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

A lot of people disagree with what you're saying, or or if someone like comments on your post and their comment gets way more like shielded because like they've said something that disagrees with you and everyone's agreed with a comment rather than commenting, right?

Chris 32:55

Gotcha.

unknown 32:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Are we feeling generous to have them one point? I don't really want to because they're what's going on. I thought we want to end. Yeah, okay.

Chris 33:07

I don't I think yeah, and I think we're in the house. We were wrong. A sense of what it was. So no, we're okay, right? But we've learned something. Excellent. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Every day's a school day.

Chris 33:20

So question nine from us. My first computer was a Commodore Vic 20. How much memory do you think it came with? And I mean like RAM memory, not hard drive, because they didn't have a hard drive. So I'm looking for a number. And we'll give you the points if you're within five units of what that was. So how much memory do you think came with one of the very early 80s computers?

SPEAKER_01 33:49

So Charlie, you're probably thinking that when I got grandad's old computer that it had eight gigabytes of RAM.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

So I think we're in the lot smaller than that though, because that was a smaller pole part.

Chris 34:08

So eight gigabytes. Bear in mind we're going back 30 years from when you got the computer.

SPEAKER_03 34:14

Charlie, do you even think it's in the GEGO range?

SPEAKER_01 34:16

I don't know if it will be.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

Well, it's really slow. Like, but not it needs to be able to run. Okay, well, that if we convert that to right, so you are eight gigabytes. I don't even know if it would be one gigabyte or if it would be I think it'd be megabytes. Is a hundred megabytes one?

SPEAKER_01 34:44

I think a thousand megabytes is one gigabyte, Lily.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

A thousand, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

I think so.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Okay, maybe like a hundred like sh what it'll be like ten or something. I don't know. Charlie, you're the best person to answer this.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

I was gonna say like maybe around like three hundred or what about does that feel quite high?

SPEAKER_03 35:06

I don't know. What does a laptop know? I know nothing about laptops or computers or anything, actually.

SPEAKER_04 35:13

No one either.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Okay, Charlie, you just pick one. I don't even know if it would be three. Is it like 10? No, but that'd probably.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Yeah, I was originally gonna say like 500 megabytes, so should we what? Should we go 300? Less, Lily.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

I mean, if you want, but you're our only hope and you've been rubbish. Just say it. It's okay. We won't we won't follow this. We'll still like you. Only a lot of things.

Chris 35:44

Yeah, I'm gonna say 300 megabytes. Okay, so there is a three in there. Oh no. You know how megabytes make gigabytes. Yeah. So it's it's the thing that makes megabytes. So it was 3.5 kilobytes. That's like I don't even think that's enough for it. I know. I don't even think that's enough for a text material. It just shows how prehistoric our technology was, and that was a lot. That was an upgrade from the ZX81 that had one kilobyte of memory.

SPEAKER_04 36:23

See, I wasn't far off when I said iPhone 17, Dad, you've come so far.

Chris 36:28

I know. But if you think about how efficient the programmers had to be to run like games in like 3.5k? That was some clever stuff.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

Oh well, that was a flop, but we've been scrolled. Okay. We've all learned something today. Whose turn is it?

Chris 36:45

I think it's usually under the technology scale.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Um the second one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

Yeah, I said I think that's also a bit easy, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

We're being nice to still get this.

SPEAKER_03 36:54

Okay, let's give it a go.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

Which messaging feature, pioneered by Snapchat, tracks how many consecutive days two users have sent each other photos or messages?

Chris 37:06

I think I can answer a Gen Z question. That sounds like a streak.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

No, I don't want them to get any more rides. Yeah, well done.

Chris 37:15

Well done, lad.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Well done, well done. I've I was surprised that you, if everyone in the team would have got it. You're a fully laughed. Well done.

Chris 37:24

Only only because I remember you two talking about it.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Probably coming in at break, but it's like, oh no, I lost my streak. It was such a big thing. You used to wake up in the morning, send a sh send something that said like streaks, or like even just an S on the screen, send it to everyone that you had on Snapchat. And sometimes you'd send one in the morning and one at night to be extra sure, extra sure. And you would get like a little um like fire emoji. And what you get like a clock or something if your streak was about to run our clocking, like us giving each other our passwords when we went on holiday to say like, can you keep my streaks for me when I'm on holiday? If your friends would log into your account, it's like dog sitting, but for your Snapchat account. So funny. And we wonder why everyone's addicted to exactly. Um I know people that would have like 300, 400, 500 day streaks and would lose them, and they'd be like crying in school because they lost their 500 day streak or Snapchat support. Yeah, like please bring them back.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

I did that once. I contacted Snapchat to be like, give it back, give it back.

SPEAKER_03 38:27

Well, now they've introduced a feature that you can pay to like revoke it for like 24 hours or something if you lose it. So there we go.

Chris 38:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 38:35

Yeah, uh, yeah, exactly.

Chris 38:40

Okay, so uh this is our final question, and it's for Linda to ask.

SPEAKER_03 38:47

Okay, so what was the approximate battery life in talk time of the very first mobile phones? Oh, for goodness sake. We've gotten you the easiest questions ever. We're done for. We should next magazine. See for round F it's over again. See for the next round, we're coming back with things you will never ever guess in million years, right? This is too much like maths as well.

Chris 39:12

Like if you think about how different the memory question was, yeah, this was like and think about how different this was for early mobile phones.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

So quite so is that the amount of time you could sail on a call before your phone just conked out?

Chris 39:28

Yeah, roughly. Okay, so we'll give you some leeway depending on where you land. So, how much time do you think with you had with a fully charged battery on a really, really early vintage mobile phone?

SPEAKER_03 39:41

Charlie. It can't be no, it can't be longer than like seven minutes or so. Six or seven um like less than ten. Or maybe like a little bit more than ten. When Mom was talking about the mouse on the wheel, I think that's what's in all of our brains right now, just a little mouse going around.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

That's kind of right. I feel like ten minutes seems like a while.

SPEAKER_03 40:12

Well, back then you would have been like, oh my goodness, 10 whole minutes to walk around. You could have a quick call in like a couple minutes. Should we say like eight or something? Yeah. Well, we don't have anything else, so just like yeah, okay, eight minutes. I was I was wondering if you were going to change that at all. Oh no, oh don't say that you could have one more bash at it if you wanted to.

Chris 40:34

Okay, okay, so it's not maybe like we'll give it to you within 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 40:43

Oh, so it's like okay, like a yeah, maybe an hour.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

No, I'm gonna say I don't even know how long you five hours. No, definitely not. Let's maybe just like an hour. Right. Yeah, we want to lock in. Right, Charlie, what do you think? You support us absolutely dead.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Start running circles in my brain and nothing.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Right, let's just say like one hour. The answer is actually about 30 minutes. 30 minutes! Oh bum. We got 30 minutes talk time from a battery that weighed almost a kilogram. Wow, simple in size to a large book and took 10 hours to charge. All nine grams, right? So the the battery also sometimes came with a shoulder strap so you could carry it a race. That's new. Ah just so it we could be possible and quick. I like that. Well, interesting.

Chris 41:52

But the the prospect of talking for half an hour to someone on a phone in the middle of a field just blew everything.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

I was gonna say, I was thinking like what would have been an absolutely mind-blowing amount, but eight minutes obviously that. So thinking that that was like a prehistoric time where it you have a cave memory and like I was thinking medieval.

Chris 42:15

It would have been, but obviously they decided to come up with a bigger battery just to give you something that was somewhat usable. But yeah, half an hour that was just that wouldn't do you now.

SPEAKER_03 42:26

No, it certainly wouldn't.

Chris 42:28

Um last question.

SPEAKER_03 42:31

Yeah, but it's another stupid uh let me see if I got another backup question.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Wait, yeah, what's the next one?

SPEAKER_03 42:39

No, um yeah, let's do that one. That's but that's not really oh no, it is okay. Right. So this is something that happened on online. So you guys hopefully won't know. Um which YouTube boxing match in 2018 is credited with launching the influencer boxing era, which has obviously gone mental in the past few years. Was that um KSI and Logan Paul?

SPEAKER_04 43:23

I thought no one was gonna get that. Was that in two seconds? Was that good time? Well done, right? Use a one.

Chris 43:33

I think we just need to pause and understand from mum how she knows that pay a fine Logan Paul who I don't know what in an internet boxing match.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

I have no actual idea. I think it might be something. Were they on maybe they might have been on Graham Norton or something like that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 43:55

I'm like, watch the match. What's that Sunday morning cooking? They're on Sunday punches. That's so funny. How did you put that?

SPEAKER_03 44:12

The only people I've ever known that I've done any boxing on YouTube.

SPEAKER_05 44:16

Me too.

SPEAKER_03 44:18

Well, I have to take my hat off to you all because we've been we started off a bit cocky, I think, and then we've been absolutely destroyer shielded. Race shield, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:30

Well oh yeah.

Chris 44:32

Um but what a good intergenerational note to finish on. The the kind of Gen Z thing mum knew from what was on good old-fashioned broadcast television. So the final scores are 13 for Gen X. We made it into double figures, which I don't think we did last time. So well done, team. And eight for Gen Z. Oh, that's terrible. I know we we had some some tough, obscure questions.

SPEAKER_03 44:59

Well, we're gonna update next time, so just everyone strap and win into studying for another year when loads more niche internet things happen, and I'm you're not gonna know any of that. Maybe what we all need to do is just dumb it down a bit so that we should actually answer some of the questions.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

That is also gonna be on another level as well because we've learned stuff we can actually use, whereas you've learned stuff from the 80s.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

Yeah, exactly. So good for you guys, and you're welcome for advancing you into the 2015. And maybe next time you guys go to a pub quiz and there's some kind of you know 80s or historic stuff, you'll you'll win some beer. Well, there better be. I hope you get another niche internet boxing question. What I'm seeing is it seems to be your special interest that you know so much about.

Chris 45:48

That's something I never knew. Uh so that's been funny just for that. It was good fun. So thank you to all of our guests. And uh yeah, well, I think we have learned a lot across both the generations, which is kind of our original aim with the podcast. So uh we're still here a year in, and thanks to everyone that supported us over that first year. And I suspect, Lily, you'll want a rematch at some point, maybe a Christmas quiz or something to see if you can uh level the score about it.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

Yeah, I'm gonna bring a much better friend, I'm gonna bring a much better uh brother. Not a fan of my team one bit. Um might just do it solo, don't know, not decided, but I'm gonna start studying now. Everyone, prepare yourselves. But yeah, thank you very much to everyone for joining. Hopefully, you all had a laugh. I definitely did, and learn blocks, which was very fun, and then happy one year one year one for the one year anniversary, happy birthday to happy birthday to the podcast!

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 46:53

So there you have it, one all for each generation in our quiz episodes so far.

Chris 46:58

Which is kind of fitting for what we stand for, don't you think?

SPEAKER_03 47:01

Yes, definitely. So on that note, we just want to say a big thank you to all of our lovely guests that we've had on this year and to you for listening as well. Our guests have been great, we've had some bad conversations, and I know that I've learned a lot. I think for the podcast it was just a hobby to begin with, and it was a nice chance for me and my dad to get to catch up a bit during the week as well. But it's turned into a little community which is really nice, and it's been a good opportunity for me to practice my public speaking skills, which I've struggled with in the past, and now that's something that I feel a lot more confident with. And a lot of that is down to our lovely guests and listeners. So, yeah, again, thank you very much.

Chris 47:43

Yeah, it's been great. As as you said, Lily, we thought it would just be a kind of hobby thing, but it's it's grown, it's not huge, but it's amazing on the occasions when I bump into someone through work or it might be on LinkedIn and someone says, Oh, I listen to a podcast episode. And it is so nice to know there are people out there who are listening to it. We've definitely learned a lot this year from all the topics that we've explored together. And for those of you listening, we hope you have too.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

So here's Tier 2. Thank you again for supporting us, and thank you for listening to the Gen XE Exchange.